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Remoaners have lost their battle to derail Brexit as the public overwhelmingly backs a ‘hard’ exit from the EU. A major new study from the LSE and Oxford University shows even remain voters now generally reject the ‘soft’ Brexit policies advocated by the remoan lobby. The findings refute the often-repeated claim that Britain is deeply divided over Brexit: in reality, both leavers and remainers are broadly united behind a ‘hard’ Brexit on almost every major issue. 

Professor Sara Hobolt of the LSE said:

“Overall… there is on aggregate higher levels of support for outcomes that resemble the ‘hard Brexit’ position put forward by the government. Remain voters are willing to acknowledge that there are key negotiation outcomes – e.g. limits to freedom of movement – that they may not like, but that these outcomes still respect the referendum vote and are therefore legitimate. In other words, Remain voters concede that the features that lead them to prefer a particular negotiation outcome do not, in fact, respect the referendum.

https://order-order.com/2017/08/11/remoaners-lose-as-voters-strongly-back-hard-brexit/

 

 

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Hi

Yet Brexit ministers on public record working for 'Temporary Customs Union' after Brexit, which thew EU calls a 'Fantasy'. Over half the country want Theresa May to stand down by next election. Polls don't always go the way you want them. (Or mine).

More to be announced re Brexit talks tomorrow..

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Paul Harries

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Don't shoot the messenger 

The EU’s own research has found that "90% of global economic growth will occur outside the EU

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Records show that the EU has the biggest Customs Union in the world!

Maybe that's why ministers are trying to set up a temporary union after Brexit?

I see the Govt. just issued their views on the Irish Border issue.

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Paul Harries

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Common sense shows the EU is a minor spratt compared to the rest of the world

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I said Customs Union. Common Sense says to read what I said.

Still. the EU is still 2nd biggest trading partner in the world. Odd choice for a spratt that. Only the ENTIRE USA has a bigger GDP. If UK was the USA's only trading partner would trade be bigger than rest of world in it's entirety, unless we were their entire rest of world's (including China), only trading partner.

Hence ministers trying to keep a 'temporary' Customs Union' after Brexit. And that's in writing.

Paul Harries

 

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19 hours ago, PaulHarries said:

Common Sense says to read what I said.

I did say compared to the rest of the world.Apart from the USA there is Canada and South America just on that one continent. 

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RELENTLESS gloom is the essential feature of propaganda about Brexit from the EU and the Remoaner lobby.

We are continually told that the end of rule by Brussels will lead to economic meltdown, global isolation and political paralysis.

The task of withdrawal is said to be so complicated that it will require years of tortuous negotiations and an army of civil servants.

But this narrative of despair keeps being confounded by events. Contrary to all the apocalyptic predictions, the economy has not collapsed since the Brexit vote.

Yesterday, figures showed that the unemployment rate has fallen to 4.4 per cent, the lowest level since 1975, while wages are rising at two per cent.

The property market is buoyant, manufacturers’ order books are busy, tourism is booming and Britain is now the most popular destination in Europe for foreign investment.

The Government has published a clear strategy for Brexit, contradicting all the rhetoric about the impossible complexity of the process.

As the documents show, the supposed problems that the Remoaners and the EU pretend are insurmountable could be resolved easily.

Last month, the Government revealed that the rights of EU citizens living in the UK would be fully respected once Brexit is enacted, making a mockery of the liberal elite’s wailing about xenophobia.

This week, ministers have issued two further papers. The first, presented on Tuesday by Brexit Secretary David Davis, envisaged an innovative free-trade deal between the UK and the EU to be preceded by a timelimited transition period where we would retain some of the features of the customs union but would be free to conclude trade agreements with other international partners.

The second, released yesterday, set out the case for a frictionless, non-physical border in Northern Ireland, so that both business and the peace process would be maintained

These papers amount to a sensible, coherent plan for Brexit. Effectively the Government has called the bluff of the EU.

All the allegedly nightmarish obstacles on the path to British independence would swiftly disappear with goodwill and co-operation.

But those are precisely qualities that neither the European Commission nor the Remoan lobby demonstrate.

In their mindset Brexit has to fail and their prophecies of doom must be turned into a reality.

That explains why they have reacted so negatively this week to the Government’s proposal

Scottish Nationalist leader Nicola Sturgeon, one of the high priestesses of the Remoan movement, called them “daft”.

Chief EU negotiator Michel Barnier was unable to muster a single argument about the substance and instead claimed that other issues, like his demand for a vast so-called “divorce” payment, had to be settled first.

That point was echoed by Guy Verhofstadt, the European Parliament’s representative on the negotiating team, who described the British trade plan as “a fantasy”.

Like so many anti-Brexit outbursts, his words were solemnly reported by parts of the media as if they were a well-judged analysis. But they were nothing of the sort. Verhofstadt is a federalist fanatic who thinks that nothing should stand in the way of the creation of a United States of Europe, complete with a centralised European government, tax system and army.

“A federal Europe is the only option,” he said in February.

Expecting a sensible response from Verhofstadt is like seeking advice from Jeremy Corbyn on investment banking. It is tragic that a zealot like Verhofstadt has any say in the negotiations but the very fact that he has been given this role says everything about the EU’s hostile stance.

With a different attitude the Brexit talks could proceed smoothly and swiftly. After all, there is nothing in this week’s strategy papers to which the EU could seriously object.

On the question of Ireland, a common travel area operated across the British Isles back in 1921 so a frictionless border should be simple to implement.

Similarly, Britain and the EU already have mutual free trade. The creation of a tariff-free zone, therefore, should be straightforward. It is in the economic interests of Europe to reach such an agreement, given the EU’s annual £90billion trade surplus with Britain.

But what really seems to motivate Brussels is cash and punishment. The commissars bang on about the misnamed £80billion “divorce” payment because they are desperate to maintain the EU’s finances.

This has nothing to do with the genuine economic needs of Europe.

On the contrary, it is all about upholding the EU’s self-serving, bureaucratic empire, which has rightly become a byword for mismanagement, waste and extravagance.

This is an organisation whose error-strewn accounts have not been given a clean bill of health for almost two decades.

No wonder that Barnier and his team cannot provide any details to back up their exorbitant demand, which has no legal or fiscal justification. The ideologues cannot abide the thought of Britain flourishing outside the EU because that would prove the emptiness of their dogmatic pretence that European free trade requires a federal superstate and political integration.

In their eagerness to hinder Brexit they are willing to harm their own citizens for the sake of their own ideology.

They must not be allowed to get away with this destructive approach. British pragmatism should prevail.

 

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Hi

Canada and South America are not very big trading partners

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Paul Harries

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Not yet, but I did say only in that continent. Do I really have to put up a huge list for you of all the countries in the world ?

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